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izifaddag
post Oct 24 2007, 10:33 PM
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Being as I practically hijacked Bolly's thread in 'By The Fireside' I felt it was only right to start my own selfish little thread in the correct area of the forum.
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I started at 243 and am pleased to say that after 4 weeks I am at 239.
All that advice in the other thread has certainly helped. I have taken note of all of it.
I seem to be doing a pound a week and that would be, by the consensus of opinion, the best way to get it off and keep it off.

I have now developed a steady but adjustable routine. I am alternating between heavy cardio and light cardio or even none but getting stuck into the weight machines.
There has been a noticeable difference.
I can lift more weight and seem generally feeling better.

I will not give up the booze though. I like my drink and drink almost every day.
I have switched to the American light beer which although watery is beer after all said and done.
Anybody got any advice regarding calories in white wine and beer?

The other thing that I am curious about is if anybody knows anything regarding the way the weight comes off. That is targeting certain areas of the body. I have not really noticed any difference in my waistline but the scale doesn't lie.
I am thinking that the fat is coming of my internal organs first. Anybody anybody??
I am doing 100 crunches using 150lbs in 2 x 50 rep sets. Seems to have no effect at all and I am considering quitting doing it and concentrating on my back instead. Any thoughts?
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post Oct 24 2007, 11:04 PM
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losing weight is about 50% diet alone.. eat clean good food and you will lose no matter what..
cardio and lifting is important too.. more muscle mean you burn more fat all day long.. cardio is burning the cal in that one moment while you are doing it.. so lifting is important as to losing weight also..

think about it this way.. if you can lift more that mean you are gaining some muscle.. muscle is heavier then fat.. since you are losing 4 lbs that mean you lose more fat then just 4lbs.. since you gain muscle while losing fat.. every lbs counts

just keep doing what you do and stick with it.. stop drinking if you want to lose weight more quickly, as drinking make you less motivated about exercising.. drink water and lots of it.. if you are full of water then you wont be hungry right?... plus no cal in water.. biggrin.gif

hope this help some what..( i know im good at bullshiting..)555 tongue.gif
but joking aside.. keep up the good work and have FUN.. without it your workout day wont last to long.. enjoy.....

PS. abs shows after you get your bodyfat down to about 10% so dont expect it to show unless you are a bit lean...o and free weight make you lose more weight.. ( you use more muscle working out )

ok bullshit over and out..hehe Good_Job.gif

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post Oct 24 2007, 11:04 PM
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Red wine is the best and if you want to loose weight fast just eat alot of protein foods and cut out the sugar and white bread , red meat, chicken, fish, eggs and bacon in the morning and light cardio and i'll guarente you'll loose 10 pounds in 14 days or two weeks
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post Oct 25 2007, 12:18 AM
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Losing weight is incredibly simply ... but not easy. All those diets about what to eat when, good carbs/bad carbs, sugar vs fat, etc., are all bullshit. Here's all you need to know is ...

Burn more calaries than you consume!

If you limit yourself to 1000 calories per day and work out regularly the pounds will melt away faster than you can imagine (much more than a pound a week). But if you cheat it doesn't work. And, if you're not hungry, it's not working.

It's very easy to look up the calorie content of almost all foods on the internet. It does take a lot of commitment and disapline but I know from personal experience it works. Good luck.
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post Oct 25 2007, 02:27 AM
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QUOTE (markster @ Oct 25 2007, 01:24 AM) *
Losing weight is incredibly simply ... but not easy. All those diets about what to eat when, good carbs/bad carbs, sugar vs fat, etc., are all bullshit. Here's all you need to know is ...

Burn more calaries than you consume!

If you limit yourself to 1000 calories per day and work out regularly the pounds will melt away faster than you can imagine (much more than a pound a week). But if you cheat it doesn't work. And, if you're not hungry, it's not working.

It's very easy to look up the calorie content of almost all foods on the internet. It does take a lot of commitment and disapline but I know from personal experience it works. Good luck.

What absolute horseshit!! Unless you want to lose lots of lean muscle, dont listen to this BS, he obviously has no fucking clue of an idea what hes on about..
Go ahead, drop down to 1000 cal a day and your body's metabolism will slow down. Your body will turn to burning lean muscle mass for fuel more than fat. You will look and feel like crap. Your body will probably come even "softer" than when u started. Although you will no doubt be lighter, your body will look and feel worse than when you started.
Also there is a hige difference between eating 1000 calories of sugar vs 1000 cal of decent protein. Also good carbs vs bad carbs is bullshit? whatever!..bad carbs-in soft drinks, sweets, chocolates, white bread, etc. will cause huge insulin spikes in your body, making you have a short term energy boost followed by a severe crash, definitely not what you want, especially if you're training..good carbs-brown rice, baked potatoes, wholegrain breads, low carb "Burgen bread" being the best, brown low carb pasta"dreamfields" best have sustained, slow release of energy which is what you need, especially when training..

To put it bluntly, unless you are a 45kg thai girl, dropping down to 1000 cal a day, and not paying attention to where the cals come from, will fuck you up..lol
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post Oct 25 2007, 02:56 AM
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roidfreek is spot on
starving yourself will only make matters worse
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post Oct 25 2007, 03:56 AM
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I agree with RF....if your eating 1000 calories a day, you will lose weight and you will be lighter but you will be fucking yourself over in the long term.

Congrats on your efforts so far lincs....in terms of food intake, diet is so important. Whats the point of training hard and eating shit. Sure, energy in v energy out is the basic principle but how you burn your energy and how you take it in is what is important.

In terms of food, it comes down to how disciplined you are and how anal you want to be.

Generally, as RF said, good carbs are important. Forget the whole "low fat" craze, thats bullshit also. Good carbs are slow release carbs, so your fibrous vegetables, whole grains etc. Cut out the white bread and sugar. Brown/Wholemeal or as RF said, Burgen bread is the bomb. Proteins are also important, especially if your lifting weights and weights are vital for weight loss.

The key to weight loss is losing weight whilst maintaining muscle. Your body is like a machine, muscle in your body helps you burn fat through your metabolism, the more muscle, the better. Im not saying become Mr Olympia, but a weights program is vital for weight loss along with a good cardio program.

Im a fat bastard and have always been, I lost 40 kilos once and then hit the wall with shit in my life and put some of it back on. Im back on a program now which is long term. I havent been able to train the last 2 weeks due to flu and fatigue and Ive eaten shit and put on 3kgs....it sucks ass.....

My suggestion for food, which is what Im following:

Proteins - chicken, fish, lean beef, tuna, egg whites and your protein powders
Carbs - oats, brown rice, spinach, brocolli plus salads
Fats - good fats come from things like avacado's, almonds etc. use extra virgin oil but minimise. Use fish oil and flaxseed oil supplements.

Try eat 6 meals a day. If you can, count your macronutrients so you can work out how much protein, carbs and fats you should be consuming. Generally, a gram of protein for every pound of body weight is good.

Good luck dude, Ill be watching this thread and contributing......
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post Oct 25 2007, 04:12 AM
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QUOTE (Bitch Controller @ Oct 24 2007, 11:02 PM) *
Im a fat bastard and have always been, .


Dont try and take the attention away from your new identity, LB fuka tongue.gif
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post Oct 25 2007, 05:23 AM
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Weight training is great for losing weight but it is your lifestyle you need to change to make big differences. Doing one hour of exercise but then sitting in front of the TV won't do it you need to think about your whole day, what are you eating and what are you doing every hour!
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post Oct 25 2007, 06:38 AM
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Not to hijack this thread but Bryan - chances are YOU will be the ladyboy that one of the boardies fucks in the next 3 months given you will probably be broke and desperate for cash and given that your 7 foot tall, you would be the ideal candidate fagboy.,.....now back to regular programing.
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post Oct 25 2007, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE (ROIDFREAK @ Oct 25 2007, 04:33 AM) *
What absolute horseshit!! Unless you want to lose lots of lean muscle, dont listen to this BS, he obviously has no fucking clue of an idea what hes on about..
Go ahead, drop down to 1000 cal a day and your body's metabolism will slow down. Your body will turn to burning lean muscle mass for fuel more than fat. You will look and feel like crap. Your body will probably come even "softer" than when u started. Although you will no doubt be lighter, your body will look and feel worse than when you started.
Also there is a hige difference between eating 1000 calories of sugar vs 1000 cal of decent protein. Also good carbs vs bad carbs is bullshit? whatever!..bad carbs-in soft drinks, sweets, chocolates, white bread, etc. will cause huge insulin spikes in your body, making you have a short term energy boost followed by a severe crash, definitely not what you want, especially if you're training..good carbs-brown rice, baked potatoes, wholegrain breads, low carb "Burgen bread" being the best, brown low carb pasta"dreamfields" best have sustained, slow release of energy which is what you need, especially when training..

To put it bluntly, unless you are a 45kg thai girl, dropping down to 1000 cal a day, and not paying attention to where the cals come from, will fuck you up..lol


That is EXACTLY what I have learned. Anyway consuming 1000 calories a day is completely impossible unless you starve yourself. I aim for 2000 and that is only a goal. Someday it is more other times less. I am aware of the carb thing and try to create a calorie debt by exercise. I have discovered that the weight loss process continues even if you miss a day at the gym. I think mixing the exercise is positive also. Sometimes 1 hour of walking on a treadmill. Other days 1/2 hr on the treadmill and hit the machines. Other days just weights. It is helpful breaking it up not least of which to counteract boredom.
Great advice here.

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post Oct 25 2007, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE (yamabthere @ Oct 25 2007, 07:29 AM) *
Weight training is great for losing weight but it is your lifestyle you need to change to make big differences. Doing one hour of exercise but then sitting in front of the TV won't do it you need to think about your whole day, what are you eating and what are you doing every hour!


Thank you for contributing to this thread but I am sorry I do not understand what you are saying. unsure.gif
Are you suggesting that I go to the gym for 1 hr then run in place for the rest of the day?
I have to disagree with you. I go to the gym and then relax. Yes that involves watching TV. I see nothing wrong with that. Now if all somebody does is sit in front of the TV and eat Fritos and ice cream (and I have been guilty of that) then yes they have gained weight through their lifestyle. However that is not what I am doing.
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