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jerry

Immigration pushing it a bit to far now ... ?

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Pattaya is in Chonburi province so there is no issue with the name. It has always been Chonburi Immigration as far as I know.

 

 

I found something that suggested the name change occurred in 2009. Perhaps that is an old photo.

 

I would have guessed 3/4 years ago (and the article which posted the photo was dated March 2013 ) but time flies so could be longer but at least you now know the name was changed from Pattaya Immigration to Chonburi Immigration.

 

What was the "something" you found.

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Been 3 times this month already . 

 

1. 5 Jan to convert my non-o to retirement . Just after the new year and very busy . Made sure i had every possible paper with me . 

    A friendly small gay guy helped me with all the right paperwork and copies . Upstairs to confirm address , all good . In and out in 

    just over an hour , not bad considering the amount of people . No extensive paperwork about personal shite like what bars i hang

    out or what social media i use . 

 

2. 12 Jan to apply for a multiple entry on the retirement Visa . Pretty straight forward , in and out in 40 minutes . 

 

3.  Residence certificate . Busy again on a Monday but all done in 30 minutes . 

 

The problem seems to be with the tourist Visa extensions . This desk can get a bit overloaded in high season what results in longer 

waiting times . 

 

Partly because so many Dodgies use them as a means to long stay.

 

Not so bad now you're one of the Good (old) Guys Eh?    :GoldenSmile1:

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Partly because so many Dodgies use them as a means to long stay.

 

Not so bad now you're one of the Good (old) Guys Eh?    :GoldenSmile1:

 

I knew you would chime in ... 555 . 

 

Basically the same paperwork but over 50 you become a 'good guy' ... feels good though

to have a stamp in your passport saying you're allowed to stay up till the end of Jan 2018 . 

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ID: 131   Posted (edited) · Report post

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I went on a Monday about 1:30 PM to do my 90 report and the Immigration Office Jomtien was chock-a-block with people inside.

A whole lot of blond heads in January mixed with the usual grey.

 

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The front was standing room only and I just held up my passport with the barcode visible and the officer at the desk passed me a queue number with a smile and I smiled and nodded back to him in appreciation.

No questionnaire mentioned.

Fifteen people in front of me but with three officers at desk #4 I was out of there in less than ten minutes.

 

Polite and professional service: all that you could ask for from a government office at Jomtien. 

We are lucky to have them.

 

The new big Chonburi sign is just outside the Office and what i thought was a new street sign (Fifth Jomtien) seems to be the name of a hotel.

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ID: 132   Posted (edited) · Report post

This is a recent photo posted by another BM still showing the sign  as "Pattaya Immigration."

 

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It's certainly recent as it has the new style Soi sign in it.

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And you can barely see the '5' amongst all the other signs

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According to this, it is going farther than that: This is from a Facebook page which I cannot find again. There was a screenshot of the form. 

 

"Thaivisa.com has received three reports that foreigners living in Chiang Mai are being visited at home by police and asked to disclose personal information such as their monthly income, height, weight and even skin colour.

On Tuesday, three separate accounts were posted to the Thaivisa forum by members who claimed they were visited at their homes in Chiang Mai by a plain closed police officer and asked to complete the ‘Personal Information’ form from the ‘Transnational Crime Coordination Unit Region 5 (TCCU R5).

The form requests such information as name and address but also asks for monthly income, parents nationality and current address, name of husband or wife and the date of marriage, as well as the names and dates of birth of any children.

In a section titled ‘Personal Appearance’ the form also asks for details of height, weight, skin colour, hair colour and details of any scars."

 

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Can we assume that these were people with Retirement Visas or marriage Visas? Ie staying more or less  permanently in Thailand.

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Dunno  if this is happening at Chonburi/Pattaya, but in Chiang Mai, 90 day reports are being declined unless the applicant has a valid TM30 receipt. 

(TM30 is the form for housemasters/condo owners to certify that you are in residence).   Formally, TM30 has to be submitted within 24 hours of  the falang's arrival in Thailand even if, in all other respects, entry Visa/extensionof stay is in order.  Failure to do so prompts a 1,600 baht fine.

Never previously been an issue for me over the last ten years at BKK or Chiang Mai Immigration.    

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Can we assume that these were people with Retirement Visas or marriage Visas? Ie staying more or less  permanently in Thailand.

 

Visits are built in to the protocols for those seeing Visas/extensions on grounds of Marriage to a Thai.  Don't always happen though ....

 

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Dunno  if this is happening at Chonburi/Pattaya, but in Chiang Mai, 90 day reports are being declined unless the applicant has a valid TM30 receipt. 

(TM30 is the form for housemasters/condo owners to certify that you are in residence).   Formally, TM30 has to be submitted within 24 hours of  the falang's arrival in Thailand even if, in all other respects, entry Visa/extensionof stay is in order.  Failure to do so prompts a 1,600 baht fine.

Never previously been an issue for me over the last ten years at BKK or Chiang Mai Immigration.    

lol...I hadn't heard of this before. It appears that my wife is risking being fined 1600 Baht for not submitting one.

 

TM30 Explained! You Must Register Any Non Thai National Living In Your Property!

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Dunno  if this is happening at Chonburi/Pattaya, but in Chiang Mai, 90 day reports are being declined unless the applicant has a valid TM30 receipt. 

(TM30 is the form for housemasters/condo owners to certify that you are in residence).   Formally, TM30 has to be submitted within 24 hours of  the falang's arrival in Thailand even if, in all other respects, entry Visa/extensionof stay is in order.  Failure to do so prompts a 1,600 baht fine.

Never previously been an issue for me over the last ten years at BKK or Chiang Mai Immigration.    

I did my 90 day Report a week ago at Jomtien and just  handed over my passport as usual. In and out in one minute. Online reporting  is off-line just now.

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I did my 90 day Report a week ago at Jomtien and just  handed over my passport as usual. In and out in one minute. Online reporting  is off-line just now.

Same here, I did my 90 day reporting today, walked up to the front counter, (no line) and just said "90 day check in", the girl handed me a ticked and I walked to the main area and they are already calling my number.  I was in and out in 90 seconds.

I did my yearly extension paperwork in Dec and zero questions about social media, skin color, height or weight, favorite hang outs, vehicles I drive,. I did have to provide a map to my house ,monthly income letter and photo, but that's always been a requirement.   So for me they are not "pushing it too far now".

 

I've seen the paperwork needed for a foreigner wanting to stay in USA long term, blood work, chest x-rays, vaccine history, plus a ton of other shit.  I'll take Thailand's paperwork request any day of the week.

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It seems that every Immigration office in Thailand has there own interpretation of what is required, if not every IO in that office. It certainly can make retiring here very frustrating. I decided to get a retirement Visa in the Philippines and now just spend about half the year here on TV or 30 day exempt. I get a Philippine resident card, which is renewable every 3 years. No 90 day reporting, no re-entry permits, in fact In my six years I have NEVER visited an immigration office.

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Same here, I did my 90 day reporting today, walked up to the front counter, (no line) and just said "90 day check in", the girl handed me a ticked and I walked to the main area and they are already calling my number.  I was in and out in 90 seconds.

I did my yearly extension paperwork in Dec and zero questions about social media, skin color, height or weight, favorite hang outs, vehicles I drive,. I did have to provide a map to my house ,monthly income letter and photo, but that's always been a requirement.   So for me they are not "pushing it too far now".

 

I've seen the paperwork needed for a foreigner wanting to stay in USA long term, blood work, chest x-rays, vaccine history, plus a ton of other shit.  I'll take Thailand's paperwork request any day of the week.

Monthly income? Are you on a married-to-Thai Visa? Ah, you don't have 800K in the bank, right?

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Monthly income? Are you on a married-to-Thai Visa? Ah, you don't have 800K in the bank, right?

Retired military with a monthly pension.  My main bank account is in the US where I keep my "big" money and I'm insured against ATM scams , unlike my smaller Thai bank account where if my card is skimmed, I'm pretty much shit out of luck and hope the Thai police get the low life.

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