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[bababooey62]

I have arranged to fly Thai air into bkk and depart 36 days later. I do plan on traveling to Philippines for a week and Laos or Cambodia too before returning to parts for Xmas and new years. Will I have any visa problems or do I need to apply for something? Thanks in advance

[up2usexyman]

bababooey62, on 12 October 2011 - 04:03 AM, said:

I have arranged to fly Thai air into bkk and depart 36 days later. I do plan on traveling to Philippines for a week and Laos or Cambodia too before returning to parts for Xmas and new years. Will I have any visa problems or do I need to apply for something? Thanks in advance

You get 30 days on arrival at the airport if you're American.  If you want longer then you'll need to get a Visa before you leave the States.  If you leave and come back you'll get 30 days each time you arrive at the airport.  If you arrive by land you'll only get 15 days.

Edited by up2usexyman, 12 October 2011 - 04:35 AM.

[benny31]

bababooey62, on 12 October 2011 - 04:03 AM, said:

I have arranged to fly Thai air into bkk and depart 36 days later. I do plan on traveling to Philippines for a week and Laos or Cambodia too before returning to parts for Xmas and new years. Will I have any visa problems or do I need to apply for something? Thanks in advance

ENTRY / EXIT REQUIREMENTS FOR U.S. CITIZENS: If you are a U.S. citizen tourist staying for fewer than 30 days, you do not require a visa, but your passport must be valid for at least six months beyond the date of your entry into Thailand. You may be asked to show an onward/return ticket. If you enter Thailand by air without a visa, you are allowed to stay in Thailand for 30 days per visit. If you enter Thailand by land without a visa, you are allowed to stay in Thailand for 15 days per visit. In either case, if you have entered Thailand without a visa, you cannot remain in Thailand for more than 90 days during any six-month period, counting from the date of first entry.

[bababooey62]

I just checked with Siam Legal, and my initial 30 days is terminated once I fly out of Thailand, and a new 30 day Visa is started upon re-arrival. No special visa needed.

[ricktoronto]

bababooey62, on 13 October 2011 - 01:39 AM, said:

I just checked with Siam Legal, and my initial 30 days is terminated once I fly out of Thailand, and a new 30 day Visa is started upon re-arrival. No special visa needed.

You missed the point that you can't stay initially for 36 days on a visa exemption. If you're caught they will put you in jail and deport you. If you are not caught you'll pay THB$3000 on departure and can get a no reentry stamp. Not always but if they want to be dicks, they can be and then you cannot come back. Why risk that?

You can extend the 30 day exemption (which is NOT a visa) in Pattaya for a fee. A fee less than THB$3000 and no jail time. Recommended.

When you FLY (not drive/bus/train) in you get a new 30 day exemption (not a visa).

Siam Legal either didn't give you good advice or you were not clear in the details.

Edited by ricktoronto, 13 October 2011 - 02:19 AM.

[bababooey62]

ricktoronto, on 13 October 2011 - 02:18 AM, said:

You missed the point that you can't stay initially for 36 days on a visa exemption. If you're caught they will put you in jail and deport you. If you are not caught you'll pay THB$3000 on departure and can get a no reentry stamp. Not always but if they want to be dicks, they can be and then you cannot come back. Why risk that?You can extend the 30 day exemption (which is NOT a visa) in Pattaya for a fee. A fee less than THB$3000 and no jail time. Recommended.When you FLY (not drive/bus/train) in you get a new 30 day exemption (not a visa).Siam Legal either didn't give you good advice or you were not clear in the details.

Correct u cannot stay over 30 days. A 7 day extension costs 1900 baht. But when u arrive at the airport u get 30 days. When u leave via the airport to another country and then return, u get another 30 day extension. U cannot exceed 90 days within a 6 month period.
The main question was would I need a visa just to enter Thailand because of not having booked the mid trip exit flight yet and my return flight leaving 36 days later.

[DaffyDuck]

ricktoronto, on 13 October 2011 - 02:18 AM, said:

You missed the point that you can't stay initially for 36 days on a visa exemption. If you're caught they will put you in jail and deport you. If you are not caught you'll pay THB$3000 on departure and can get a no reentry stamp. Not always but if they want to be dicks, they can be and then you cannot come back. Why risk that?

Because he's not risking that if he leaves during those 36 days to go to those other places, as once he comes back he gets a 30 days extension - so as long as he leaves during his initial stay, and returns by air, he's fine.

If there's real concern, just go to your local Thai consulate and request a 60 day visa.

[Scumbag]

bababooey62, on 13 October 2011 - 02:33 AM, said:

Correct u cannot stay over 30 days. A 7 day extension costs 1900 baht. But when u arrive at the airport u get 30 days. When u leave via the airport to another country and then return, u get another 30 day extension. U cannot exceed 90 days within a 6 month period.
The main question was would I need a visa just to enter Thailand because of not having booked the mid trip exit flight yet and my return flight leaving 36 days later.

Why not book a flight to exit the country before you arrive? You will probably not have any problems but I have been asked by an airline if I had a visa because I was travelling on a one way ticket. Would they have allowed me to board the flight if I did not have a visa? I don't know but I would image that it has happened to someone at some point.

Also, the 90 days in 6 month policy has been scarped. There is no time times at the moment.

[bababooey62]

Scumbag, on 13 October 2011 - 02:54 AM, said:

Why not book a flight to exit the country before you arrive? You will probably not have any problems but I have been asked by an airline if I had a visa because I was travelling on a one way ticket. Would they have allowed me to board the flight if I did not have a visa? I don't know but I would image that it has happened to someone at some point.Also, the 90 days in 6 month policy has been scarped. There is no time times at the moment.

I might I am pricing trips right now. As u know making plans is tough to do or keep. I'm a spur of the moment type. I'm pretty set on 2 weeks in Patts, 1 week in Philippines, and 2 weeks back in Thailand.

[superconsult]

bababooey62, on 14 October 2011 - 01:05 AM, said:

I might I am pricing trips right now. As u know making plans is tough to do or keep. I'm a spur of the moment type. I'm pretty set on 2 weeks in Patts, 1 week in Philippines, and 2 weeks back in Thailand.

The 30 days visa exemption allows each visitor (within the visa exemption scheme)to stay in Thailand without any need of getting a visa.  Your whole holiday lasts for 36 days and you plan to stay in Philippines for 1 week, so it means that the maximum period of staying in Thailand is in any event less than 30 days.  As far as the airline is concerned, there shall be no problem whatsoever if you have the return ticket.  As far as the Thai immigration is concerned, they don't even bother to ask you why you didn't get a tourist visa for a 36 days' visit.  Even if they ask you, you can simply answer him/her that you are going to visit Philippines for a week during this 36 days' visit.

It's not a difficult issue at all.  I really don't see the necessity of getting advice from that company or mentioning about that.