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The Kid Kabugle

Buying drinks for fellow mongers

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johnyboy2232
22 hours ago, gmoule said:

I hate going in rounds as I hate the feeling of owing someone and drink,then feeling like I have to stay to finish the round,so I stopped going in them when on Monger holidays a long time ago,especially as usually buy a ladydrink when I have a drink as I like to have a feel about a bit,couldn't expect someone else to pay for that,I do know several bars where the owner or manager will start a round on purpose,as he knows chances are your guna stay to finish that round

I share the same sentiments. I do not like the feeling of owing the lads a couple of round of shots after they have bought a few (5-6 is fine.. I can pay for 1 or possibly 2 1.5-2k B but once it hits 10 or more I will feel really bad and although fellow mongers say they are ok and just init to have a nice evening.. I really need the money to spend on pussay!). So next time, open yer mouth.. if the fellow mongers are yer friends, they will probably understand. I avoid altogether cos I'm worried as being viewed as a cunt although I would really like to hang out... again me need money for pussay!

But for me it's partially about the reciprocity of it. But more to do with crazy farangs having a larger tank than me cos I'm Asian (a weak ass one)! 5 shots is fine.. 10 or more.. please.. God.. stop... 

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b0b

My mother always told me not to accept gifts from foreigners.

Joking apart, in Pattaya it’s not a good idea to accept drinks from other mongers or to offer them drinks.

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talung66

I have read and replied to this tread.

It seems the OP hasn't replied to any comments. I think he just figured out he is in pattaya and not Temple bar Dublin.

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The Kid Kabugle
11 hours ago, talung66 said:

I have read and replied to this tread.

It seems the OP hasn't replied to any comments. I think he just figured out he is in pattaya and not Temple bar Dublin.

Yeah thanks for the comments everyone. I appreciate now that it’s not really the done thing here (been coming to Pattaya for ten years so I must be a slow learner, though I don’t remember many people not returning a drink before which is obviously why I started the thread).

Just for the record -when it happened the guys I bought the beers for were fine, none of us were very drunk and we were enjoying good mutual conversation. Meaning I wasn’t busting anyone’s balls.

Cheers

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vimto66

Problem with getting rounds in is you have fast drinkers and those who drink at a more leisurely pace, even back home i stay out of large rounds for this very reason, some people quaff down their first couple of pints then slow down, and others start slowly but are often still drinking when others are on their last legs.Also the fact late on people can genuinely be forgetfull whos round it is (although there are still those who will know irrespective of how pissed they are:laugh:).

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Ranovertheborder

I'm amazed that some people are so socially inept that they cannot reciprocate if bought a drink, having said that some of the mentalists I have met here are indeed socially inept so I should just accept that you cannot educate pork 

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bongoz
On 11/02/2019 at 10:20, everard said:

Be carefully mate,you might up with a sore arse

Thanks for the advice.....

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everard
1 hour ago, bongoz said:

Thanks for the advice.....

You're welcome

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Mr_wimpy
On 10/02/2019 at 20:46, particle said:

Rounds are stupid. The only reason for them is the even more stupid British system of having to leave your drinking partners at the table in a pub and buy your drink at the bar.

Sometimes British people get confused and start forming a queue at the bar when you don’t have to.  Winds me up that and I’m British. 

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Srirachapocalypse
27 minutes ago, Mr_wimpy said:

Sometimes British people get confused and start forming a queue at the bar when you don’t have to.  Winds me up that and I’m British. 

I believe the stereotype is that British people see a queue and join it even if they don't know what it's for because queuing up is so ingrained in the persona? 

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Fear51

The whole idea of buying rounds with the expectation of getting one back is retarded.  If you buy someone a drink that should be a gift.  If the other person buys you one back,  great, accept it as a gift as well.  If not, then you shouldn't get all pissy about it.  If you are buying people drinks on the basis of expecting one back, then you probably shouldn't be buying drinks in the first place.  Then you start thinking about who bought what and is it my turn to buy, and at the end of the night you think man I paid for more drinks than the other guy.  Just pay for drinks yourself.  But if you are enjoying yourself and feel generous buy someone a drink too, but don't feel like the other person should owe you one back.  

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deano4598
1 hour ago, Fear51 said:

The whole idea of buying rounds with the expectation of getting one back is retarded.  

Depends on where you are, in some countries it is a common thing to do and part of mateship. In Australia I will do it and expect it. When I am not in Australia I do not expect Australian values to exist so if I buy someone a drink in Pattaya I have no expectation of getting one back. If that happens then great. The bin system in bars in Patts tend to discourage this anyway as each person drinks at his own pace and the bins are loaded up accordingly.

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LOSO

If someone buys me a drink, I will always buy one back. I don't feel there's an obligation as such, its just what I do.....

Equally I would not be bothered if I'm not bought a drink...I'm there to have fun and its all good. We all have our own way of doing things and we're all there for a good time in our own way 

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Ru4Real
19 hours ago, Fear51 said:

The whole idea of buying rounds with the expectation of getting one back is retarded. 

Just as we don't understand your culture of tipping someone for breathing you don't understand our culture of "rounds" :D

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GorGuy
21 hours ago, deano4598 said:

Depends on where you are, in some countries it is a common thing to do and part of mateship. In Australia I will do it and expect it. When I am not in Australia I do not expect Australian values to exist so if I buy someone a drink in Pattaya I have no expectation of getting one back. If that happens then great. The bin system in bars in Patts tend to discourage this anyway as each person drinks at his own pace and the bins are loaded up accordingly.

Spot on.

I find in Australia, certainly with my mates, if you are drinking slow then you bow out of accepting a drink on that round. You might end up buying just half the table a drink. None of this "load someone up" each time even if they have 3 bottles waiting to be drunk and have had enough to drink. No buying shots for all the table even though some do not like shots or have had enough to drink already.

Fine to be generous, but being generous is not buying someone so much to drink that they get sick or more drunk than they wanted to.

So sad to watch is those who buy managers a drink because they are so desperate to have a "friend". Then they call the manager their friend. The highlight of the day being "I went to blah blah bar to talk to the manager and buy him a drink, or take him food that he never wanted in the first place. So good to have a friend".

I guess with the amount of people buying managers a drink (who's job is to be polite to you and get you to buy drinks) and then buying other holiday-makers a drink, that there are many lonely people in Pattaya looking to be acknowledged as somebody's friend, by being bought a drink back. Open your eyes, there are lots of lovely girls around, try socialising with them.

 

3 hours ago, Ru4Real said:

Just as we don't understand your culture of tipping someone for breathing you don't understand our culture of "rounds" :D

Now that is funny.

Set me up for the day with a big smile on my face.

I am in Nakhon no-where and an American is currently staying with us. The phrase "hey you breathed, have a tip" is going to stay with me all day.

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Fear51
4 hours ago, Ru4Real said:

Just as we don't understand your culture of tipping someone for breathing you don't understand our culture of "rounds" :D

Oh we have "rounds" in the US and people often buy rounds for each other, but that is not the expectation.  What I don't understand is buying a round expecting to get one back, ESPECIALLY if you're in some other country and expecting those people to adhere to your own country's norms.  that's dumb.

With regard to your point on tips, I have no come back for that and while I've lived it all my life here in the US, I can't for the life of me think of why that makes rational sense and would agree it would be better to do away with the silly system.  

 

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Ru4Real
16 minutes ago, Fear51 said:

What I don't understand is buying a round expecting to get one back, ESPECIALLY if you're in some other country and expecting those people to adhere to your own country's norms.  that's dumb.

That I agree with 100%

16 minutes ago, Fear51 said:

With regard to your point on tips, I have no come back for that ...

I was just extracting the urine :D

It is what it is, all countries have there little ... idiosyncrasies ... that leave others scratching their heads.

First time I visited my ex sister-in-law in the States we went to a local bar for a few beers with a few of her mates. I wandered up to the bar to get the first round in and when I brought them back to the table asked why I was getting the death stare from the barman ... how was I to know you're supposed to tip a barman for letting me go up to the bar, spend money, and carry the drinks back to the table :Dunno1: 555

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Pabloypablo

I've been following this thread from the beginning.....

even commented once.

Here is the thing....  As a BM noted before.  If I loan someone money...  for example, I, in the real world, owned a large shop with employees that made very little money and when I found out they were short of cash for one reason or the other.....  I would ask how much they needed and then pull out my wad of cash (it's an old school US farmer thing...) and give it to them.  I would say half of them would pay me back on payday, and the other half would "forget"...

I never, ever worried nor spoke about it. And I am sure they spoke about it among themselves because I would hear about it from time to time.  I never treated an employee differently whether they paid me back or not.  Giving someone a loan with the expectation of getting your money back is a sure fire way of becoming jaded and disappointed and then NEVER loaning money.

But at the same time, I never, ever gave money to my three sisters who asked for it on a regular basis....   Because I KNOW that they wasted their own money, envied mine, and would only resent me more if they felt they were indebted to me.  On the flip side, I let every employee know that I was ALWAYS indebted to them for their time, dedication, and hard work.  They worked hard to make ME successful.

I view this thread as a microcosm on the human condition.  Some feel that if they make someone "obligated", then they should have power over them...…  IE you owe me one.  did you really want me to "repay" you with a drink, or did you want me to fluff you for your next TG?

In my opinion, the joy of life is in the giving.... and not the receiving....

Do you attempt to make your TG happy because you want her to make you as or more happy?  Or did you just enjoy the moment?

Almost every thread, it is clear on this website that that there are two camps...

What's in it for me?

How can I make those around me happy?

There is obvious overlap between the two conditions, but at the end of the day, most folks fall in one or the other, mostly.

I, and it is clear many others, believe in wanting to make others happy without expectations of "payback"...…

Alternatively, "payback" draws us closer and makes us more of a tribe...…  There is no shame nor guilt in that either...…

As the famous thai phrase goes,...……  "up to you, ka!"

 

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gming

Don't think this one out too much.  It's just a drink...if you enjoy the company, it's  a polite way to show appreciation..that's it.  If you're expecting a return, then you've missed the point.  However, if you're using it as a lead in, take your chances...

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gming

Sorry, the "lead in" refers to a TG.  Please excuse any confusion.

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