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Is 5,000 baht what the girls in the Walking street GoGos are asking these days?

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dingbat22
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20 minutes ago, sabato said:

That sounds like no tax legislation I've read. Taxation is often based on source, if you have US source income, you pay US taxes on it. If you're working on a holiday visa in Australia, you're paying Australian taxes - even though you're a non resident, and not a tax resident.

You have no understanding on how ones "Domicile" affects ones Tax liability, if you want to understand TRY to READ and UNDERSTAND https://www.expertsforexpats.com/expat-tax/the-difference-between-domicile-and-residence/ 

 

and here is the Australian Tax interpretation

https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/International-tax-for-individuals/In-detail/Residency/Residency---the-domicile-test/

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Pheat
8 minutes ago, dingbat22 said:

You have no understanding on how ones "Domicile" affects ones Tax liability, if you want to understand TRY to READ and UNDERSTAND https://www.expertsforexpats.com/expat-tax/the-difference-between-domicile-and-residence/ 

Folks in this position obviously engage chartered accountants to deal with their tax affairs .

Not a copy and paste merchantwith zero understanding and have been on PAYE or benefits all their life.  

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Ru4Real
38 minutes ago, DrewM said:

I can't help but think what a good value that is compared to what is available in the states,. You would be lucky if that got you a 10-minute handjob from a 5 to 6 35-year-old Las Vegas casino girl on a slow night. 

That there is one of the main mistakes people make and is one of the factors in rising prices. Comparisons should be made to other things in the country not your home country. Bottom line is if you are happy with the ROI it's a good deal regardless where in the world you are.

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Ru4Real

@dingbat22   @Pheat

Handbags back in the closet gents; the thread is about how much the WS gogo girls are asking for, not who's got the biggest dick.

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petehoax
3 minutes ago, Ru4Real said:

That there is one of the main mistakes people make and is one of the factors in rising prices. Comparisons should be made to other things in the country not your home country

why? i never understand this point. 
i don't care how much the girl earns compared to the rest of the country. it has absolutely no bearing on my enjoyment of pattaya or on the value i get out of it. I'm here for 10 days or so. What influence has the minimum wage of a rice farmer in chiang mai on the price i think is good value for me for a blow job from a girl in Pattaya? Why should i care if the Sapphire girl earns 10x more than an employee of 7-eleven? 

If i make a comparison, i make it
a) to my other options right now at the moment. Is it worth it for me (right now) to pay 2x more for a gogo LT than it is for a Soi 6 LT or 3x more than a beer bar girl? Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. 
b) to the mongering prices back at home. (or maybe to a different mongering destination, but let's not open that can of worms again...)

but honestly, most of the time it's just: is that specific girl at that specific moment good value imho. 

sure, i come from Switzerland and i'm lucky that we have high earnings / GDP back home, so i mostly feel "everything is cheap" while traveling. But still, the point stands. I really don't care how it compares to the cost of som tam in terminal 21. 

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George1234
16 minutes ago, petehoax said:

it has absolutely no bearing on my enjoyment of pattaya or on the value i get out of it.

Some people don’t focus their energy on enjoying themselves, they spend much of their time grumbling and playing the ‘victim’ of some conspiracy. 

21 minutes ago, petehoax said:

What influence has the minimum wage of a rice farmer in chiang mai on the price i think is good value for me for a blow job from a girl in Pattaya? 

None, but some people believe that girls from poor villages should offer poverty prices - they should not get above their station. They are oblivious to the fact they operate in an international market.

27 minutes ago, petehoax said:

but honestly, most of the time it's just: is that specific girl at that specific moment good value imho. 

Value is an experience at a given cost. Like you say, you make that value judgment in the moment. 

The experience is tied up in desire, attraction, lust, curiosity and you set that against a price. You are right, the moment rice farming enters your experience, you have serious problems.

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JABL
3 hours ago, buck011 said:

So mate you were happy to pay 120 EUR for a shag ( excluding drinks)?

I wanted the girl --and actually it was my last night in pattaya so the 4000 baht spent wasnt much of a big deal.

Actually putting it in perspective ,there is hardly  any decent agogo you wouldn't pay about 4000 baht for a girl.

 

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sabato
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On 15/06/2019 at 04:47, dingbat22 said:

You have no understanding on how ones "Domicile" affects ones Tax liability, if you want to understand TRY to READ and UNDERSTAND https://www.expertsforexpats.com/expat-tax/the-difference-between-domicile-and-residence/ 

 

and here is the Australian Tax interpretation

https://www.ato.gov.au/Individuals/International-tax-for-individuals/In-detail/Residency/Residency---the-domicile-test/

Thanks for the links.

What makes this unclear for me - is that you can be domiciled in one country without being a resident for tax purposes there. Which is where your earlier statement, you mentioned you pay income tax in the country you are domiciled in. These are distinct concepts. I can establish my domicile in Philippines by purchasing a property there, but neither work there, not stay there over the 180 days that triggers Philippines tax residency. So I would instead be liable for tax in the country my income was sourced from. 

edit: sorry going off topic, might create a thread about this later

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secret tom

seen so many falangs swanking it off it pattaya....i am in oil i am a ceo all the bullshit the truth is...he was a dust man etc

 

its all hype...pattaya makes them dream

 

this thred is off radar lol...i wont pay crazy prices to fuck any girl...no need.to

 

job done

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silverfox53

Returning to the thread - as I don't give a fk in the financial BS comments - you gotta think of this from the girls perspective :

1) she only needs ONE customer every couple of days to save her from being banged senseless, and her finances are secure.

2) with the one said customer she can concentrate on ripping drinks out of every punter to go with her salary.

The above make it a no brainier from her point of view.

From mine, she can fk right off 555

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Mr B
On 14/06/2019 at 20:56, dingbat22 said:

Did you know that if the girls do not turn up for work, a BF is deducted from their salary....

I do. It's also sometimes possible for girls to dictate their own terms based on popularity and their value to the bar sndvrelationship with bar management 

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Captain Dave

P4P is one of the few services where the amount paid bears very little relationship to the quality of the experience.

 

Regardless of the gogo prices, it is still ridiculously easy to shag a sexy girl in Pattaya for 1,000B.

Which is as cheap as chips in any language.

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LongJohnSilver
22 hours ago, sabato said:

Thanks for the links.

What makes this unclear for me - is that you can be domiciled in one country without being a resident for tax purposes there. Which is where your earlier statement, you mentioned you pay income tax in the country you are domiciled in. These are distinct concepts. I can establish my domicile in Philippines by purchasing a property there, but neither work there, not stay there over the 180 days that triggers Philippines tax residency. So I would instead be liable for tax in the country my income was sourced from. 

edit: sorry going off topic, might create a thread about this later

Each country will have rules about residency for tax purposes, which may be based on different factors such as property ownership, length of stay, nationality and family ties. There is no universal standard  

You can be a resident for tax purposes in multiple countries in the same tax year which complicates your tax affairs - eg a US citizen who spends 180 days in Australia and 90 days in the UK is generally liable for tax in all three counties. 

Also, not all countries have double-taxation agreements meaning you may be liable to pay tax on the same income twice without being able to deduct the tax payments in either jurisdiction.

If you’re concerned, best to speak to a tax accountant rather than guess/google.

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hgt
On 12/06/2019 at 14:51, NorCalKid said:

LT, ended up taking the lady she was there with.   Didn't discuss money this time. She joined me for breakfast after being paid 1500 for the night the next morning. 

Yup same experience for me and my friend. We picked girls up from bamboo bar for around 1000-1500B for LT. The quality varies though and the one I got with me home was one of the prettiest I saw in a while but she had a bad attitude and a pretty nasty infection in her vagina. So I guess you can get some fine ladies in there with a bit of luck..

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hgt
On 14/06/2019 at 07:27, kokotinar said:

Exactly. People need to look at this from different standpoint. When I barfine Gogo stunner and pay for LT 5k+ Baht ( including barfine ), im not looking just for quick fuck, but more like full night ( and often daytime ) companion. Thats what for are lady drinks. 1 or 2 drinks and litlte conversation is usually enough to see if the girl is atracted to you.  After that we usually drink few more rounds, move to ibar or other popular disco clubs, as the Gogo girls usually love to party ( myself too ) and have a great fun , few drinks, take care of them and after we move to the hotel , they will do their best to please you, reward ( both night and morning ). 

Yes, one can tell it is just better and cheaper to avoid BF and take freelancer directly from ibar. I have actually had one dissapointing encounter like this, took one very beautiful and young girl from ibar LT for only 2k baht, couldnt make any meaningfull conversation there because of noise, only to find later in room she doesnt even know good english, is inexperienced and hear all night about that she just broke with her Italian boyfriend. This completely ruined my mood that night and send her away early morning.

So 5k+ Baht  for a great companion for full night, including partying and multiple sessions, and they often want to stay daytime too, as gogo girls go back to work at 8+ p.m is really bargain price for me, so far I never regret spending money on gogo girls. Even took the best ones for multiple LTs. 

But I can understand, that for guys who look only for quick sessions and want to fuck multiple girls a day this can be expensive. But each to their own : )

Edit: And lets not forget, as 4k baht is average LT from Gogos, thats all they earn in one day ( not inluding salary ). Unlike TF or beer bar girls, they usually do not fuck multiple customers per day.

 

Yeah that's my experience too. The best girl I had was a go go girl who wasn't in a hurry next morning like the FL girls..

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